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  • missnelson replied to a comment by missnelson

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    missnelson10 months ago

    Confuscious never said that the key to good government is to name things honestly. I doubt that you have read or studied any philosophers.

    Danny IS an undocumented american.

    the article states "I showed them photos of events where Danny's artwork had been distributed, posted on The Dream Is Now campaign's social media pages. I showed them my driver's license, and explained why he didn't yet have one. I didn't share any new information. But my citizenship and skin color made everything I was saying credible—even though Danny and I both spoke to the officers in English, using the same words, and were able to produce the same photos and anecdotal evidence....this doesn't bother you? do you know why this happened, police believing the white guy who said everything danny said, and that made it ok? that is just one aspect of racism, ask any black teen or black young adult if they have been in a similar situation.

    You said "If you want to talk about "undocumented Americans" I know a young man whose parents brought him over from the Ukraine in the early 90s. Grew up here and did a tour in Iraq but owing to his parents mistake in filing some paperwork 20+ year ago, he's not a citizen. I never see anyone trying to fix those kinds of mistake and the "Dream Act" seem utterly indifferent to them... After reading this tidbit, i had to stop and find out if undocumented americans are allowed to join america's military and the answer is no. the undocumented immigrants can get a card to let them work in the country, and want obama to expand the definition of work to include serving in the military. i'm not sure how this ukranian young man without documents served in the military. did you make this up? according to your views that entire family deserves to be deported, in your eyes they are not undocumented americans but illegal immigrants, criminals. they broke the law by immigrating to america without papers and in 20 years have never applied for citizenship. i swear you make no sense at all.

    "The Dream Act is about importing Democratic voters." Really?

    The democrats did not invent jim crow. How are you connecting jim crow with immigrants? You know nothing of the history that caused jim crow. Jim crow had nothing to do with immigrants and you sully the memories of those who fought for civil rights.

    Do you know the difference between immigration and emmigration?
    Do you understand the bill of rights? You can't pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, so what is emmigration exclusion?

    The Democrat philosophy is that " America is a hateful place where only the Democratic party protects you. Are you really going to say that democrats think America is a hateful place? So what are democrat children going to war for? Why would you want to defend a hateful place? This was a very stupid comment.

    "The Dream Act is also racist a hell. You never see any Hispanics saying, "Hey, its not fair we get automatic citizenship just because we can walk to America. Lets say everyone, African, Asian, Indian etc that can hop a boat or plane can come here." Nope they pop an artery at the thought. Yeah, its all the great American dream until some other people of color start immigrating in numbers". Sorry, but this paragraph makes absolutely no sense. You really do not have a clue about what racism is.

    "Not to mention the whole, "Jobs Americans are to lazy to do," is really just code for "jobs black people are to lazy to do." Are you saying that blacks are not american? Being a migrant worker is not an easy job. Working in the hot sun, doing back breaking work so you and your family can stuff your faces. Again you show an amazing lack of knowledge of history and politics.

    " If Danny is to be rewarded for breaking our immigration laws, how can we punish anyone else?" How and what is Danny being rewarded for?

    "Just open the borders to everyone who can stagger across. What's so special about Mexicans? Why not ship load after ship load of Chinese? They're hard working, don't eat much and there is apparently an infinite number of low skill, low paid jobs available here." They don't eat much, isn't that a bit stereotypical?

    Then you go and blast the housing project bill. That too has nothing to do with immigration
    I read the entire bill. It doesn't mention political parties at all.

    Please explain what upper class democrats are?

    " It traps everyone else in at the bottom of the income scale because there an infinate supply of cheap labor always flowing in to keep wages down. No matter how hardworking, illegal immigrants or their children will be forced to depend on the democrats for public assistance and vote robotically Democrat or starve." Where do you come up with these ideas?

    Repubs have a big problem with comprehension of any article. To read and understand 20 pages of double spaced type is difficult for them. The last two plus pages are references. References back up your facts, and we know that repubs don't operate on facts and truth, you'd rather make things up and distort history and thump the christan bible to make yourselves feel good and righteous. You get your news from fox news, not from reading many articles on the situation, both sides of a story and different perspectives. You are vastly uneducated.

    Your last paragraph shows how you feel about people with intelligence. you would prefer that we all be mediocre thinkers like you. face it, people with intelligence scare the hell out of repubs because repubs only live in the here and now, cannot think outside the box, are not well read, have little minds and are extremely racist from lack of or poor education.

    Last of all, repubs blame everything under the sun. If Danny's predicament is a fault, it's because of uneducated, small minded, racist people like you in our government.

    missnelson10 months ago

    Do you understand the bill of rights? You can't pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, so what is emmigration exclusion?

    this comment should read, you have the right to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. i believe emigration exclusion would be illegal.

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  • missnelson replied to a comment by Shannon Love

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    Shannon Love10 months ago

    If Danny was brought her by his criminal parents, he has my sympathies but his current problems are largely the result of people like you who have encouraged illegal immigration and fought to destroy any meaningful immigration law or enforcement of same. If people like you weren't so racist and exploitive of people like Danny, he'd probably be on a legal citizenship track now.

    Confucius said that the key to good government was to name things honestly. Danny is not an "undocumented American." That's a lie. It's marketing spin. Its a phrase intended to discuss the fact that illegal immigrants willful and knowing break the law. It makes a mockery of all law. Danny or his parents broke the law. He's not missing or some box wasn't checked off. They broke the law, your lying about it to exploit them. End of story.

    If you want to talk about "undocumented Americans" I know a young man whose parents brought him over from the Ukraine in the early 90s. Grew up here and did a tour in Iraq but owing to his parents mistake in filing some paperwork 20+ year ago, he's not a citizen. I never see anyone trying to fix those kinds of mistake and the "Dream Act" seem utterly indifferent to them.

    The Dream Act is about importing Democratic voters. Since the 1840s and onward, the Democrats have increasingly depended on having voters from peasant cultures where patronage rules everything. The entire democratic message has always boiled down to "you can't trust your fellow Americans because of religion, race, class, region etc" and you can never make it on your own, you've got have politicians to hook you in." The Democrats invented Jim Crow, All-white Unions, Emmigration exclusion, corrupt big city machines (with the mob as muscle) all based on the idea that America is a hateful place where only the Democratic party protects you. In the 60s all they did was swap "people of color" for "white" and then carried on as before. There message is constantly one of mistrust and hatred for ones fellow Americans.

    That message that your alone and have to be connect to powerful patrons makes perfect sense from people coming from places like Ireland, Italy Eastern Europe etc where things actually work that way. The problem is, after a couple of generations, people figure out that hey, you can trust your neighbors and you can make it on your own, so the Democrats need a new batch of people from patronage cultures. If it weren't for illegal immigration the Democrats would never win in New Mexico, Arizona or California.

    The Dream Act is also racist a hell. You never see any Hispanics saying, "Hey, its not fair we get automatic citizenship just because we can walk to America. Lets say everyone, African, Asian, Indian etc that can hop a boat or plane can come here." Nope they pop an artery at the thought. Yeah, its all the great American dream until some other people of color start immigrating in numbers.

    Not to mention the whole, "Jobs Americans are to lazy to do," is really just code for "jobs black people are to lazy to do." or perhaps even worse, "jobs that are beneath the dignity of any Americans so we've got to import some little brown peasants to do them."

    If were not going to bother to enforce immigration laws, why have them? If Danny deserves to be an American, why not anyone else in the world? If Danny is to be rewarded for breaking our immigration laws, how can we punish anyone else?

    Just open the borders to everyone who can stagger across. What's so special about Mexicans? Why not ship load after ship load of Chinese? They're hard working, don't eat much and there is apparently an infinite number of low skill, low paid jobs available here. Hell, lets invite the entire planet.

    Face it. This is cynical political exploitation of the poorest people in the world. The brutality and selfishness of it all is exceeded only by the horror of the whole Housing Projects fiasco of 50 years ago. This one fills communities with poor, low-skill workers who depress wages across the board (except for upper class democrats of course) It traps everyone else in at the bottom of the income scale because there an infinate supply of cheap labor always flowing in to keep wages down. No matter how hardworking, illegal immigrants or their children will be forced to depend on the democrats for public assistance and vote robotically Democrat or starve.

    Just remember. Danny's predicament is your fault. You and your intellectual predecessors created his dilemma by your self interested wrecking of the most liberal immigration laws in human history. Now you want to wreck what is left and create more Danny's down the line.

    Nope.

    missnelson10 months ago

    Confuscious never said that the key to good government is to name things honestly. I doubt that you have read or studied any philosophers.

    Danny IS an undocumented american.

    the article states "I showed them photos of events where Danny's artwork had been distributed, posted on The Dream Is Now campaign's social media pages. I showed them my driver's license, and explained why he didn't yet have one. I didn't share any new information. But my citizenship and skin color made everything I was saying credible—even though Danny and I both spoke to the officers in English, using the same words, and were able to produce the same photos and anecdotal evidence....this doesn't bother you? do you know why this happened, police believing the white guy who said everything danny said, and that made it ok? that is just one aspect of racism, ask any black teen or black young adult if they have been in a similar situation.

    You said "If you want to talk about "undocumented Americans" I know a young man whose parents brought him over from the Ukraine in the early 90s. Grew up here and did a tour in Iraq but owing to his parents mistake in filing some paperwork 20+ year ago, he's not a citizen. I never see anyone trying to fix those kinds of mistake and the "Dream Act" seem utterly indifferent to them... After reading this tidbit, i had to stop and find out if undocumented americans are allowed to join america's military and the answer is no. the undocumented immigrants can get a card to let them work in the country, and want obama to expand the definition of work to include serving in the military. i'm not sure how this ukranian young man without documents served in the military. did you make this up? according to your views that entire family deserves to be deported, in your eyes they are not undocumented americans but illegal immigrants, criminals. they broke the law by immigrating to america without papers and in 20 years have never applied for citizenship. i swear you make no sense at all.

    "The Dream Act is about importing Democratic voters." Really?

    The democrats did not invent jim crow. How are you connecting jim crow with immigrants? You know nothing of the history that caused jim crow. Jim crow had nothing to do with immigrants and you sully the memories of those who fought for civil rights.

    Do you know the difference between immigration and emmigration?
    Do you understand the bill of rights? You can't pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, so what is emmigration exclusion?

    The Democrat philosophy is that " America is a hateful place where only the Democratic party protects you. Are you really going to say that democrats think America is a hateful place? So what are democrat children going to war for? Why would you want to defend a hateful place? This was a very stupid comment.

    "The Dream Act is also racist a hell. You never see any Hispanics saying, "Hey, its not fair we get automatic citizenship just because we can walk to America. Lets say everyone, African, Asian, Indian etc that can hop a boat or plane can come here." Nope they pop an artery at the thought. Yeah, its all the great American dream until some other people of color start immigrating in numbers". Sorry, but this paragraph makes absolutely no sense. You really do not have a clue about what racism is.

    "Not to mention the whole, "Jobs Americans are to lazy to do," is really just code for "jobs black people are to lazy to do." Are you saying that blacks are not american? Being a migrant worker is not an easy job. Working in the hot sun, doing back breaking work so you and your family can stuff your faces. Again you show an amazing lack of knowledge of history and politics.

    " If Danny is to be rewarded for breaking our immigration laws, how can we punish anyone else?" How and what is Danny being rewarded for?

    "Just open the borders to everyone who can stagger across. What's so special about Mexicans? Why not ship load after ship load of Chinese? They're hard working, don't eat much and there is apparently an infinite number of low skill, low paid jobs available here." They don't eat much, isn't that a bit stereotypical?

    Then you go and blast the housing project bill. That too has nothing to do with immigration
    I read the entire bill. It doesn't mention political parties at all.

    Please explain what upper class democrats are?

    " It traps everyone else in at the bottom of the income scale because there an infinate supply of cheap labor always flowing in to keep wages down. No matter how hardworking, illegal immigrants or their children will be forced to depend on the democrats for public assistance and vote robotically Democrat or starve." Where do you come up with these ideas?

    Repubs have a big problem with comprehension of any article. To read and understand 20 pages of double spaced type is difficult for them. The last two plus pages are references. References back up your facts, and we know that repubs don't operate on facts and truth, you'd rather make things up and distort history and thump the christan bible to make yourselves feel good and righteous. You get your news from fox news, not from reading many articles on the situation, both sides of a story and different perspectives. You are vastly uneducated.

    Your last paragraph shows how you feel about people with intelligence. you would prefer that we all be mediocre thinkers like you. face it, people with intelligence scare the hell out of repubs because repubs only live in the here and now, cannot think outside the box, are not well read, have little minds and are extremely racist from lack of or poor education.

    Last of all, repubs blame everything under the sun. If Danny's predicament is a fault, it's because of uneducated, small minded, racist people like you in our government.

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    missnelson10 months ago

    where is the post that i spent over an hour writing in response to shannon?

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    missnelson11 months ago

    very, very, nice to everyone who teaches black history that is not the mlk/rosa parks civil rights lessons. students today do not relate to that era because they didn't live it. i taught computers and would have students read articles from the paper about the school district and then the comments underneath. then the question becomes, why are people calling you names, saying you can't learn, saying you are thugs who don't want to be educated? we had great discussions.

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  • missnelson replied to a comment by Cyril B. Saulny

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    Cyril B. Saulny11 months ago

    I won't debate "real!" But yes, Washington was the first under the new US Constitution. Still, we can not discredit the fact that there were others before him, and that one of them was known to having been a Moor. Still, it is not being taught! A great teaching opportunity to expose the differences of the times prior to the making of America.

    missnelson11 months ago

    there is no "new constitution", there is only ONE constitution and it was ratified by the states. the articles of confederation were not the constitution. america did not become the united states of america until the constitution we have today was ratified. the revolutionary war gave us our freedom from europe, the constitution gave us a unified government.

    let me ask you to educate me. what did the moor do and why was he important?

    i hate to say this, and will probably get flamed, but your knowledge or the ability to put history in perspective is woefully poor.

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    missnelson11 months ago

    i have said for years, that except for literature books, texts are merely reference books. they are usually out of date before they even get to the classroom. it's not that schools don't teach, a building doesn't teach, teachers teach. i taught in a big district, middle school, inner city and how a teacher does not realize that the history of the students taught is different than the white experience or even white history. we have become a global community, are students are diverse, and all cultures should be taught. standards are not black or white or asian or hispanic or spanish or latino, but our students are. the internet is a great tool for diversifying learning to individual cultures, meeting the standards and sharing. a win-win situation all around.

    btw cyril, i'm white and jewish and i always told my students that jesus was black. how could he not be?

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