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		<title>By: angryafrican</title>
		<link>http://www.good.is/post/remember_tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-7709</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the people are in the streets everywhere. London - stiff upper lip protests and Brown decided not to touch the torch. France - pull off a riot and put out that flame like only the French could. San Francisco - hanging off the bridge to stop the hanging. Maybe we should create a special Oh-Limp-Pics for those not-so-free societies to be paraded every four years. It will give us all a chance to show how we feel about injustice around the world. It is obvious that the media will only report on it if there is a sound-bite and a photo opportunity. Maybe something for tyrant to carry the torch of torture every four years. Mm, I think I have an idea…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the people are in the streets everywhere. London &#8211; stiff upper lip protests and Brown decided not to touch the torch. France &#8211; pull off a riot and put out that flame like only the French could. San Francisco &#8211; hanging off the bridge to stop the hanging. Maybe we should create a special Oh-Limp-Pics for those not-so-free societies to be paraded every four years. It will give us all a chance to show how we feel about injustice around the world. It is obvious that the media will only report on it if there is a sound-bite and a photo opportunity. Maybe something for tyrant to carry the torch of torture every four years. Mm, I think I have an idea…</p>
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		<title>By: conray</title>
		<link>http://www.good.is/post/remember_tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-7723</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blog.ifrance.com/lafeu&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Dalaï Lama., whose teacher is a Farcist  is well known. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
But the western still defend him for his fake religion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In that case, the Corsica should be independent from France. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
if the that Sarkozy insist to support this terrorist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And the Scotland, Ireland should be independent from England.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s our point of View.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is what Dalai Lama called peaceful, non-voilence demonstration?  Can you imagine a peaceful non-voilence in Tibet after viewing Dalai Lama&#039;s supporter&#039;s behavior, and how he is treating a disabled athelete girl who is sitting on armchair? An animal is always an animal, just like Dalai Lama and his supporters.  A lepoard never changes their spots!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
No doubt that Dalai Lama and their supporters are terrorist. Now they were killing and attacking Han people, someday, they will attack their owner, the westerns! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>Dalaï Lama., whose teacher is a Farcist  is well known. </p>
<p>But the western still defend him for his fake religion.</p>
<p>In that case, the Corsica should be independent from France. </p>
<p>if the that Sarkozy insist to support this terrorist.</p>
<p>And the Scotland, Ireland should be independent from England.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s our point of View.</p>
<p>This is what Dalai Lama called peaceful, non-voilence demonstration?  Can you imagine a peaceful non-voilence in Tibet after viewing Dalai Lama&#8217;s supporter&#8217;s behavior, and how he is treating a disabled athelete girl who is sitting on armchair? An animal is always an animal, just like Dalai Lama and his supporters.  A lepoard never changes their spots!!</p>
<p>No doubt that Dalai Lama and their supporters are terrorist. Now they were killing and attacking Han people, someday, they will attack their owner, the westerns! </p>
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		<title>By: conray</title>
		<link>http://www.good.is/post/remember_tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-7724</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They claimed that they are nonvoilence. But they burnt their own city, they killed Han people. They are roiters, they are agitated by those political terrorists, their leader is Dalai Lama!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Lasa, Tibet is always a saint city for All of our chinese people, but they burnt the city overnight! Thousands of Chinese Han Poeple are helping to build the railways and help to develop economy and improve the living for Tibet people, thousands of Chinese people died on the site of building railways because of extreme climate and typographs, thousands of people including my own relatives to help them, But they burnt the city overnight! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Without Chinese people, without all of chinese people, Tibet will be forever as poor as those in Nipel. Their people will always be Slave, you all know what slave means under the religion controller like Dalai Lama, just like the Negro Slave in old America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Do you know history, ignorant people!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, 1.3 billion of Chinese people, most of them are still in poverty, but we are trying to help to Tibet, just because they are minors, we are trying to help them, but those roiters burnt it overnight!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Tears! only angry and tears left!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
But the westers are supporting a roiter Dalai Lama. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They claimed that they are nonvoilence. But they burnt their own city, they killed Han people. They are roiters, they are agitated by those political terrorists, their leader is Dalai Lama!</p>
<p>Lasa, Tibet is always a saint city for All of our chinese people, but they burnt the city overnight! Thousands of Chinese Han Poeple are helping to build the railways and help to develop economy and improve the living for Tibet people, thousands of Chinese people died on the site of building railways because of extreme climate and typographs, thousands of people including my own relatives to help them, But they burnt the city overnight! </p>
<p>Without Chinese people, without all of chinese people, Tibet will be forever as poor as those in Nipel. Their people will always be Slave, you all know what slave means under the religion controller like Dalai Lama, just like the Negro Slave in old America.</p>
<p>Do you know history, ignorant people!</p>
<p>Yes, 1.3 billion of Chinese people, most of them are still in poverty, but we are trying to help to Tibet, just because they are minors, we are trying to help them, but those roiters burnt it overnight!</p>
<p>Tears! only angry and tears left!</p>
<p>But the westers are supporting a roiter Dalai Lama.</p>
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		<title>By: treebee</title>
		<link>http://www.good.is/post/remember_tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-7770</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read the history of Tibet to see what Tibet look like under the rule of Dalai Lama, under their &quot;famer-slave&quot; political system!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Dalai, a liar!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He use the western people&#039;s sense of justice to challenge the unity of China. What he really want is to become the king, the ruler, the dictator of Tibet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read the history of Tibet to see what Tibet look like under the rule of Dalai Lama, under their &#8220;famer-slave&#8221; political system!</p>
<p>Dalai, a liar!</p>
<p>He use the western people&#8217;s sense of justice to challenge the unity of China. What he really want is to become the king, the ruler, the dictator of Tibet.</p>
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		<title>By: luxun</title>
		<link>http://www.good.is/post/remember_tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-7801</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is commonly taught that Beijing, as the mother to the uncivilized Tibetans, provided modern society to Tibet. Everything factories to roads. While this is true, Tibetans had a flourishing and advanced culture before the helping hand of the Han. Talk about Han chauvinism... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, I agree with you that China has done a lot of positive things for Tibet, but it is unfair to not recognize the dissatisfaction they feel. It is not coming out of nowhere. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Tibetans do not want independence. They want to be part of China, but all they ask for is a little freedom in practicing their religious beliefs. How would you feel if you could be jailed for practicing your beliefs that don&#039;t affect anyone else?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, many Westerners are supporting the Dalai right now, but most are uninformed and doing it because it is the popular thing to do. Many people accept what they hear right away without confirming the truth. How many of us know what the real situation is? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Let those with true knowledge about the situation solve the problem. Do not let emotion and nationalism cloud the truth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope that the hate doesn&#039;t get out of control on either side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is commonly taught that Beijing, as the mother to the uncivilized Tibetans, provided modern society to Tibet. Everything factories to roads. While this is true, Tibetans had a flourishing and advanced culture before the helping hand of the Han. Talk about Han chauvinism&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyway, I agree with you that China has done a lot of positive things for Tibet, but it is unfair to not recognize the dissatisfaction they feel. It is not coming out of nowhere. </p>
<p>The Tibetans do not want independence. They want to be part of China, but all they ask for is a little freedom in practicing their religious beliefs. How would you feel if you could be jailed for practicing your beliefs that don&#8217;t affect anyone else?</p>
<p>Yes, many Westerners are supporting the Dalai right now, but most are uninformed and doing it because it is the popular thing to do. Many people accept what they hear right away without confirming the truth. How many of us know what the real situation is? </p>
<p>Let those with true knowledge about the situation solve the problem. Do not let emotion and nationalism cloud the truth.</p>
<p>I hope that the hate doesn&#8217;t get out of control on either side.</p>
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		<title>By: tsongi</title>
		<link>http://www.good.is/post/remember_tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-7821</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE QUESTION OF AUTONOMY FOR TIBET&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
by Tsoltim N. Shakabpa&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Some Tibetans are asking for autonomy for Tibet from Communist China while many Tibetans, especially the young who are the future of Tibet, are struggling for total independence. Why would some Tibetans ask for considerably less freedom than those of us in exile currently enjoy? Why would some Tibetans seek an agreement that denies us the right to manage our own foreign and military affairs, travel freely anywhere in the world and freely voice our opinion of political leaders? Under the sovereignty of an autocratic communist regime we certainly wouldn&#039;t have those rights. What use is autonomy under Communist China if it means denying the intrinsic values we cherish? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
By asking the communists for an official agreement to have autonomous status for Tibet, we will be surrendering to marxists and atheists many of the rights we are now entitled to and locking ourselves into a constricted and precarious situation from which we cannot withdraw.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If we enter into an official agreement on autonomy under the sovereignty of a tyrannical communist regime some of the restrictions, including firm restrictions on all foreign and military affairs, we will face are:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  1. Practice of Tibetan religion, culture and traditions within &quot;autonomous&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      Tibet will be under strict Chinese scrutiny.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  2. Promotion of Tibetan culture, religion and traditions abroad will either &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      be prohibited or restricted as it concerns foreign affairs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  3. Restrictions on all foreign travel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  4. If ever the Dalai Lama is allowed to travel abroad, he will be &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      accompanied by Chinese agents, who will dictate what he may say or &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  5. Tibetans will have to carry Chinese passports when traveling abroad.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  6. Tibet can never be represented in any international body or agency as it &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      concerns foreign affairs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  7. Foreign investments in Tibet will be controlled by China as it concerns  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      foreign affairs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  8. China will have the authority to impound or export from Tibet any &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      valuable Tibetan resources as they can claim it affects Tibet&#039;s foreign &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      welfare and affairs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  9. China will have full control over the flow of the Drichu and Machu &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      Rivers in Tibet as China will claim they affect the Yangtse and Huang &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      Ho Rivers in China since the Drichu becomes the Yangtse in China &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      and the Machu becomes the Huang Ho in China. Any such activity will &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      gravely affect the Tibetan ecological and environmental system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
10. Tibetans, within Tibet, will never be permitted to record for history all &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      the misdeeds that China inflicted upon Tibet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
11. Tibetans will never be permitted to claim restitution from China for all &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      the misdeeds (killings and torture) inflicted upon them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
12. China will never agree to having the whole of ethnic Tibet under one &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      Tibetan administration. Thus autonomous Tibet will simply be a &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      miniscule semblance of what independent Tibet was. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
13. The Chinese will always deceptively impose their own puppets on a &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      Tibetan administration under an agreement for autonomy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
14. Tibetans will never be allowed to raise their national flag.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
15. China would be free to continue flooding autonomous Tibet with Han &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
      Chinese as they would be the sovereign rulers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The above are just a few of the restrictions Tibetans will face if an agreement on autonomy is signed. And, furthermore, who is to say that the Communist Chinese will not tighten the noose around the necks of the Tibetans as they did after the first signing of an agreement on autonomy in 1951, which they themselves dictated?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Even if Tibet ever realizes autonomy under the sovereignty of Communist China, Tibetans will never truly trust the situation. Tibetans will set one foot outside Tibet and the other foot in Tibet. And unlike Hong Kong, which is mostly made up of Chinese, Tibetans will never completely assimilate with the Han race because of the Han&#039;s superiority complex nor accept a communist regime as their ideologies differ completely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Tibetan Government-in Exile&#039;s chief envoy in his negotiations with China proclaims &quot;we must not look at the past&quot; in order to avoid upsetting the Chinese with the touchy subject of our history of independence. But the very intrinsic values of Buddhism teach us that our future depends upon our past. The past is what makes us Tibetans and the past is what will make the future. Even the Dalai Lama&#039;s own elder brother, the honorable Taktser Rimpoche, despite his age and physical disability, is valiantly fighting for independence, not for autonomy. My own late father, the historian, statesman and former Finance Minister of independent Tibet, Tsepon Wangchuk Deden Shakabpa, steadfastly stood for an independent Tibet all his life.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
With autonomy under the sovereignty of Communist China, Tibetans will go the way of American Indians with even far less freedom. For real freedom, the only option is to continue the struggle to regain Tibet&#039;s independence or have an agreement for genuine autonomy with a truly democratic state. The fall of empires through the ages, as well as the fall of the Spanish&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
and British Empires, the Nazi Rule and the Soviet Union is proof that impermanence is the constant in nature. Dictatorships in Burma, Kenya and Zimbabwe may yet fall. Therefore, the Chinese tyranny and power over Tibet and its other colonies will too one day soon come to an end. Just like India, the Philippines, many African nations and eastern European countries, one day Tibet too will be free and independent if Tibetans continue their struggle for freedom no matter how long it takes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Why would the Tibetan Government-in-Exile sign &quot;another&quot; agreement on autonomy with Communist China when under communism China has already flagrantly reneged on the 17 Point Agreement of 1951, which they themselves dictated? An agreement is like a &quot;paper tiger&quot; to communists. They feel they can easily tear it up when and if it doesn&#039;t suit them and use it in a predatory manner when it does.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Further, communists believe that religion is poison, as Mao himself told the Dalai Lama, while Buddhism is a sacred religion to Tibetans. Also, since communists believe that religion is poison, they logically believe that the religious head of an institution is &quot;lethal&quot; poison, which the Tibetans can never accept because to Tibetans the Dalai Lama is not only the supreme head of their religious institution but also the reincarnation and emanation of the God of Compassion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Moreover, communism is fraught with dictatorship and totalitarianism while Tibetans fervently believe in democracy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I firmly oppose any gesture or effort to enter into an agreement with communists for autonomy for Tibet, in this case with Communist China. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Communism is faltering and failing worldwide. Millions of Chinese who have fled their own country are clamoring for democracy in China. Chinese intellectuals and students within China are demanding democracy. The silent majority in China is wishing for democracy. There is a growing split between the hardliners and pragmatic progressives within the Communist Party in China. The country is no longer ruled by one man. She is ruled by consensus within the Communist party and every day the liberals within the party are gaining strength. Finally, China will have to embrace democracy if she is to be accepted within the ranks of nations that uphold human rights and if she is to compete fairly with its equally populous neighbor, India, which is rapidly progressing economically within a free and democratic environment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Having said the above and as a Tibetan who longs to return to a free Tibet, it is my secondary hope and prayer that our hardline position to gain complete independence for Tibet will strengthen His Holiness the Dalai Lama&#039;s hand to achieve &quot;genuine&quot; autonomy for Tibet under a single, democratically-elected Tibetan administration over the whole of ethnic Tibet within the framework of a truly democratic China. Treaded carefully and calculatingly, this may well be a stepping stone to total independence. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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We must ignite the flames of freedom and follow the star of Tibet to seek the fountain of bliss.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Long live His Holiness the Dalai Lama! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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WHAT HATH COMMUNIST CHINA WROUGHT?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Potala, the seat of the mighty Dalai Lamas,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is just a tourist attraction now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Jokhang, the holiest place in Tibet,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is a mere travesty now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The three great monasteries&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Have just symbolic monks now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The sacred ancient relics&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Are sold in international antique markets now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In their own country&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Tibetans are second class citizens now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The voices of freedom&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Are smothered now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The once happy people of Tibet&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Are in tears now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The quaint old streets of Lhasa&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Are filled with bars and Chinese prostitutes now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The elegant wild animals &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Are going extinct now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The majestic snow-capped mountains &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Are melting now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The crystal blue lakes&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Are filled with atomic waste now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The pristine environment&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is completely polluted now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Lhasa, God&#039;s earth,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is the devil&#039;s paradise now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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What hath Communist China brought?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Only pain and destruction&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
What hath Marxist China wrought?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Only strain and abduction&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
What hath atheist China sought?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Only reign and seduction&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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TAG LINE: A passionate political activist for a free Tibet, Tsoltim N. Shakabpa is a retired senior Tibetan-American international investment banker turned a recognized poet with 5 acclaimed books of poems to his name.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE QUESTION OF AUTONOMY FOR TIBET</p>
<p>by Tsoltim N. Shakabpa</p>
<p>Some Tibetans are asking for autonomy for Tibet from Communist China while many Tibetans, especially the young who are the future of Tibet, are struggling for total independence. Why would some Tibetans ask for considerably less freedom than those of us in exile currently enjoy? Why would some Tibetans seek an agreement that denies us the right to manage our own foreign and military affairs, travel freely anywhere in the world and freely voice our opinion of political leaders? Under the sovereignty of an autocratic communist regime we certainly wouldn&#8217;t have those rights. What use is autonomy under Communist China if it means denying the intrinsic values we cherish? </p>
<p>By asking the communists for an official agreement to have autonomous status for Tibet, we will be surrendering to marxists and atheists many of the rights we are now entitled to and locking ourselves into a constricted and precarious situation from which we cannot withdraw.</p>
<p>If we enter into an official agreement on autonomy under the sovereignty of a tyrannical communist regime some of the restrictions, including firm restrictions on all foreign and military affairs, we will face are:</p>
<p>  1. Practice of Tibetan religion, culture and traditions within &#8220;autonomous&#8221; </p>
<p>      Tibet will be under strict Chinese scrutiny.</p>
<p>  2. Promotion of Tibetan culture, religion and traditions abroad will either </p>
<p>      be prohibited or restricted as it concerns foreign affairs.</p>
<p>  3. Restrictions on all foreign travel.</p>
<p>  4. If ever the Dalai Lama is allowed to travel abroad, he will be </p>
<p>      accompanied by Chinese agents, who will dictate what he may say or </p>
<p>      do.</p>
<p>  5. Tibetans will have to carry Chinese passports when traveling abroad.</p>
<p>  6. Tibet can never be represented in any international body or agency as it </p>
<p>      concerns foreign affairs.</p>
<p>  7. Foreign investments in Tibet will be controlled by China as it concerns  </p>
<p>      foreign affairs.</p>
<p>  8. China will have the authority to impound or export from Tibet any </p>
<p>      valuable Tibetan resources as they can claim it affects Tibet&#8217;s foreign </p>
<p>      welfare and affairs.</p>
<p>  9. China will have full control over the flow of the Drichu and Machu </p>
<p>      Rivers in Tibet as China will claim they affect the Yangtse and Huang </p>
<p>      Ho Rivers in China since the Drichu becomes the Yangtse in China </p>
<p>      and the Machu becomes the Huang Ho in China. Any such activity will </p>
<p>      gravely affect the Tibetan ecological and environmental system.</p>
<p>10. Tibetans, within Tibet, will never be permitted to record for history all </p>
<p>      the misdeeds that China inflicted upon Tibet.</p>
<p>11. Tibetans will never be permitted to claim restitution from China for all </p>
<p>      the misdeeds (killings and torture) inflicted upon them.</p>
<p>12. China will never agree to having the whole of ethnic Tibet under one </p>
<p>      Tibetan administration. Thus autonomous Tibet will simply be a </p>
<p>      miniscule semblance of what independent Tibet was. </p>
<p>13. The Chinese will always deceptively impose their own puppets on a </p>
<p>      Tibetan administration under an agreement for autonomy. </p>
<p>14. Tibetans will never be allowed to raise their national flag.</p>
<p>15. China would be free to continue flooding autonomous Tibet with Han </p>
<p>      Chinese as they would be the sovereign rulers. </p>
<p>The above are just a few of the restrictions Tibetans will face if an agreement on autonomy is signed. And, furthermore, who is to say that the Communist Chinese will not tighten the noose around the necks of the Tibetans as they did after the first signing of an agreement on autonomy in 1951, which they themselves dictated?</p>
<p>Even if Tibet ever realizes autonomy under the sovereignty of Communist China, Tibetans will never truly trust the situation. Tibetans will set one foot outside Tibet and the other foot in Tibet. And unlike Hong Kong, which is mostly made up of Chinese, Tibetans will never completely assimilate with the Han race because of the Han&#8217;s superiority complex nor accept a communist regime as their ideologies differ completely.</p>
<p>The Tibetan Government-in Exile&#8217;s chief envoy in his negotiations with China proclaims &#8220;we must not look at the past&#8221; in order to avoid upsetting the Chinese with the touchy subject of our history of independence. But the very intrinsic values of Buddhism teach us that our future depends upon our past. The past is what makes us Tibetans and the past is what will make the future. Even the Dalai Lama&#8217;s own elder brother, the honorable Taktser Rimpoche, despite his age and physical disability, is valiantly fighting for independence, not for autonomy. My own late father, the historian, statesman and former Finance Minister of independent Tibet, Tsepon Wangchuk Deden Shakabpa, steadfastly stood for an independent Tibet all his life.</p>
<p>With autonomy under the sovereignty of Communist China, Tibetans will go the way of American Indians with even far less freedom. For real freedom, the only option is to continue the struggle to regain Tibet&#8217;s independence or have an agreement for genuine autonomy with a truly democratic state. The fall of empires through the ages, as well as the fall of the Spanish</p>
<p>and British Empires, the Nazi Rule and the Soviet Union is proof that impermanence is the constant in nature. Dictatorships in Burma, Kenya and Zimbabwe may yet fall. Therefore, the Chinese tyranny and power over Tibet and its other colonies will too one day soon come to an end. Just like India, the Philippines, many African nations and eastern European countries, one day Tibet too will be free and independent if Tibetans continue their struggle for freedom no matter how long it takes.</p>
<p>Why would the Tibetan Government-in-Exile sign &#8220;another&#8221; agreement on autonomy with Communist China when under communism China has already flagrantly reneged on the 17 Point Agreement of 1951, which they themselves dictated? An agreement is like a &#8220;paper tiger&#8221; to communists. They feel they can easily tear it up when and if it doesn&#8217;t suit them and use it in a predatory manner when it does.</p>
<p>Further, communists believe that religion is poison, as Mao himself told the Dalai Lama, while Buddhism is a sacred religion to Tibetans. Also, since communists believe that religion is poison, they logically believe that the religious head of an institution is &#8220;lethal&#8221; poison, which the Tibetans can never accept because to Tibetans the Dalai Lama is not only the supreme head of their religious institution but also the reincarnation and emanation of the God of Compassion.</p>
<p>Moreover, communism is fraught with dictatorship and totalitarianism while Tibetans fervently believe in democracy.</p>
<p>I firmly oppose any gesture or effort to enter into an agreement with communists for autonomy for Tibet, in this case with Communist China. </p>
<p>Communism is faltering and failing worldwide. Millions of Chinese who have fled their own country are clamoring for democracy in China. Chinese intellectuals and students within China are demanding democracy. The silent majority in China is wishing for democracy. There is a growing split between the hardliners and pragmatic progressives within the Communist Party in China. The country is no longer ruled by one man. She is ruled by consensus within the Communist party and every day the liberals within the party are gaining strength. Finally, China will have to embrace democracy if she is to be accepted within the ranks of nations that uphold human rights and if she is to compete fairly with its equally populous neighbor, India, which is rapidly progressing economically within a free and democratic environment.</p>
<p>Having said the above and as a Tibetan who longs to return to a free Tibet, it is my secondary hope and prayer that our hardline position to gain complete independence for Tibet will strengthen His Holiness the Dalai Lama&#8217;s hand to achieve &#8220;genuine&#8221; autonomy for Tibet under a single, democratically-elected Tibetan administration over the whole of ethnic Tibet within the framework of a truly democratic China. Treaded carefully and calculatingly, this may well be a stepping stone to total independence. </p>
<p>We must ignite the flames of freedom and follow the star of Tibet to seek the fountain of bliss.</p>
<p>Long live His Holiness the Dalai Lama! </p>
<p>WHAT HATH COMMUNIST CHINA WROUGHT?</p>
<p>The Potala, the seat of the mighty Dalai Lamas,</p>
<p>Is just a tourist attraction now</p>
<p>The Jokhang, the holiest place in Tibet,</p>
<p>Is a mere travesty now</p>
<p>The three great monasteries</p>
<p>Have just symbolic monks now</p>
<p>The sacred ancient relics</p>
<p>Are sold in international antique markets now</p>
<p>In their own country</p>
<p>Tibetans are second class citizens now</p>
<p>The voices of freedom</p>
<p>Are smothered now</p>
<p>The once happy people of Tibet</p>
<p>Are in tears now</p>
<p>The quaint old streets of Lhasa</p>
<p>Are filled with bars and Chinese prostitutes now</p>
<p>The elegant wild animals </p>
<p>Are going extinct now</p>
<p>The majestic snow-capped mountains </p>
<p>Are melting now</p>
<p>The crystal blue lakes</p>
<p>Are filled with atomic waste now</p>
<p>The pristine environment</p>
<p>Is completely polluted now</p>
<p>Lhasa, God&#8217;s earth,</p>
<p>Is the devil&#8217;s paradise now</p>
<p>What hath Communist China brought?</p>
<p>Only pain and destruction</p>
<p>What hath Marxist China wrought?</p>
<p>Only strain and abduction</p>
<p>What hath atheist China sought?</p>
<p>Only reign and seduction</p>
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<p>TAG LINE: A passionate political activist for a free Tibet, Tsoltim N. Shakabpa is a retired senior Tibetan-American international investment banker turned a recognized poet with 5 acclaimed books of poems to his name.</p>
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		<description>China was under a dictartorship and still is. It is a world known fact. Mao killed millions of Chinese through overforced labour, starvation, terrorism and torture and this is still happening. The Dalai Lama on the otherhand is the world example of non violence (compassion, tolerance, patience) that is why the whole modern World listens to what he has to say. He is highly respected all over the world for this reason - pity that money gets in the way of freedom. Peace to you.</description>
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